Comments on: Women dominate PC gaming

By: Smartbomb

Smartbomb — Sat, 05 Feb 2011 17:03:09 +0000

[...] It seems to me that what we are looking at here are groups of male gamers coming together to defend prominent male community leaders by shouting down women who feel alienated by gaming culture. Sexism is rife in all aspects of gaming culture, whether you look at the demographics of people working in the industry, the characters and scenarios featured in games themselves, or the attitudes of the gaming community. Obviously not every game is sexist or every gamer misogynistic, but the atmosphere ought to be plainly obvious to anyone with any sense of awareness. The secret third thing that’s come to my attention in recent weeks is the existance of Fat, Ugly or Slutty?, a blog of sexist abuse that has spewed from the fingers of gamers. I remember reading an article in The Escapist years ago about how girls don’t exist on the internet which matched up with many of my friends’ stories about life as a female gamer, and it’s kinda depressing to think things haven’t changed much since then – especially when the majority of PC gamers are women. [...]

By: Tateru Nino

Tateru Nino — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 05:34:08 +0000

That’s still PC gaming. Being willing to sit and play a game at all, whether on a computer or off of it is an important thing. That someone is willing to sit and play a game at all is one of the steepest pyscho-social barriers. I think what you’re suggesting is that the stuff lower down the chart is a real picture of what is being played that is available on the market. This is a demographic that, unfortunately, the industry has generally tried to avoid making games for. One that exists despite support, rather than because of it.

Imagine if publishers could be bothered trying to find games that would be appreciated and acceptable to that demo, rather than … well, did you know that some games publishers excise all women over 18 from their research data before demographic results are presented internally? As a demographic they’re literally shunned.

By: Dblade

Dblade — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:44:35 +0000

Uh, they don’t actually, they are just playing the apps built into the computer for a short period of time, and that influences the study because so many people do it. That’s a huge stretch to say they “dominate” pc gaming, and looking at the report, it looks like that huge number is based on two things:

1. 1.5million more instances of playing Solitaire for women than men (keep in mind minutes aren’t tracked in this, just the amount of times they played)

2. 1 million more instances playing freecell.

Go down the list, and it starts to be a more balanced picture. It’s a 60/40 split on WoW, and roughly equal in terms of casual games, with less men playing half-life (but I’d wager for more time) than women playing jewel quest.

So it’s a stretch to say they dominate PC gaming, women according to nielsen tend to fire up casual games more frequently than men do overall, and for both genders, the most popular games played are the ones they shipped with the machine. It’s actually harmful research, because it would be better to ignore solitaire, freecell, pinball, and hearts to focus on lower-tier games to get a real picture of what is played.

By: Tateru Nino

Tateru Nino — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:27:31 +0000

Well, I never considered myself to have any creative talents whatsoever. SL seems to have proven me wrong.

By: Nightbird Glineux

Nightbird Glineux — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:15:30 +0000

“Women who don’t have or need to do a daytime job…”

Or want something more rewarding than checking at WalMart.

By: Peter Stindberg

Peter Stindberg — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:48:14 +0000

While I don’t consider Second Life as a game, it occured to me that it is a very feminime world, and the more seasoned the residents are, the less males there are. I attribute this to the very important aspect of social interaction within SL, something men have a tendency to avoid. And the lack of goal driven activities (something men seem to favour).

Another thing is that – from my experience – a very large group of SL content creators are recruited from the group of… for the lack of a less disrespectful word…. “housewives”. Women who don’t have or need to do a daytime job (other than “just” looking after the household and the kids), often coming from creative professions or having creative talents. My own business partner and the designer for our furniture brand GREENE concept belongs to that group: having worked in graphic design before, now staying at home looking after the two pre-teen daughters while husband works in a fulltime job, she has time to design SL-furniture when her chores are done and the children are in school.

By: Nightbird Glineux

Nightbird Glineux — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:42:32 +0000

They’re also offering Virtual Families, a Sims-like game.

That one’s obviously targeted at the teen male demographic. *giggle*

By: Nightbird Glineux

Nightbird Glineux — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:35:18 +0000

On a related note, I saw that Amazon in the States is now offering games for downloading. These are smaller, more casual games like Diner Dash, Emerald City Confidential, or Jewel Quest. Most of these have woman characters like Flo from Diner Dash.

By: Tateru Nino

Tateru Nino — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:53:10 +0000

Indeed. It’d probably rate even higher if they tracked corporate office usage.

By: Myg

Myg — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:43:38 +0000

Minesweeper? Really?