Comments on: Bob Komin leaves Linden Lab http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/ Tateru Nino writes about virtual worlds, second life, statistics, culture, law, gaming, and eclectic oddities Fri, 27 Dec 2013 16:15:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1 By: 2012: a year in review Part 2 | Living in the Modem World http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/#comment-890627 Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:05:54 +0000 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/?p=5806#comment-890627 […] CFO and interim CEO Bob Komin departed LL after speculation about his future, when Tateru Nino confirmed he had left the hallowed halls of Battery […]

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By: LL’s new CFO | Living in the Modem World http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/#comment-787720 Sun, 23 Sep 2012 21:52:28 +0000 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/?p=5806#comment-787720 […] Komin’s departure from Linden Lab at the start of August was widely reported, With Tateru Nino first confirming he had in fact left after a couple of months of speculation he was set to […]

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By: Wayfinder http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/#comment-780854 Fri, 07 Sep 2012 12:50:11 +0000 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/?p=5806#comment-780854 As many are aware my group left SL in Nov 2011 and moved to competitive grid Inworldz. It was the best move we ever made. We went from one dying sim and a group struggling to remain alive on the expensive SL platform… to growing and thriving with more than 45 regions and very happy, creative members.

We made that move largely due to policy changes that happened under the “guidance” of M. Linden. So I have no love for that CEO beyond the fact that he drove us to a far better platform. However I have always questioned whether the direction LL went was due to M’s decisons– or whether he was a puppet for something Linden Lab wanted to do anyway and used as a scapegoat when things went horribly wrong. The evidence would seem to be the fact that while they fired M. Linden for his policies… the company kept those policies in force. That is more than a little bit suspect.

Overall he did us a big favor though. We are now on a grid 1/4 the price of SL, offering 3x the prims, full megaprim usage and no link limits. The new company is far more supportive to our group and interestingly enough, far more stable than Second Life. Because unlike LL, Inworldz actually focuses on fixing bugs and improving erroneous code.

So in the long run, M. Linden did us a big favor. He may have done so unintentionally, but sometimes the back of a hand is what’s needed to send us out the door and on to better things.

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By: Vivienne http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/#comment-768155 Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:55:58 +0000 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/?p=5806#comment-768155 No. The totally innovative collection of exclusive grid-saving pathfinding bugs crept in without the traditional noize. So no rumble this time from LL.

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By: Anonymous No. 2 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/#comment-766994 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:15:01 +0000 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/?p=5806#comment-766994 “Kingdon clusterfuck”. That crack made my day. Hehehe. What are we suffering now? The Humble rumble?

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By: Mila Francesca http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/#comment-764780 Mon, 06 Aug 2012 14:21:36 +0000 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/?p=5806#comment-764780 I keep trying to determine the point at which Moore’s Law drives the price of land and tier down. Maybe that’s why LL has become profitable and closed one of its server facilities – doing more with less. At some point, the benefit of the technologic advancement tracked by Moore’s Law has to come out to consumers. Not as “trickle-down” voodoo, but as a means of staying competitive. If a service like Otoy ever puts up a virtual worl, LL will be in serious trouble.

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By: Dave Z http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/#comment-764635 Mon, 06 Aug 2012 07:36:14 +0000 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/?p=5806#comment-764635 Komin was part of the Kingdon clusterfuck that created this whole mess. He’s done nothing good for the residents and has helped nurture the toxic relationship the Lab has with it’s customers. Good riddance to bad garbage.

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By: Seren Seraph http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/#comment-764506 Mon, 06 Aug 2012 01:36:45 +0000 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/?p=5806#comment-764506 Today I have 10 regions in Kitely for a total of $20/month with all v3.0 features and vivox voice. Each will support 100 concurrent users and a prim count of 100.000. So far there is no hypergrid or non-roll it yourself currency. But those things are planned. The times, they are a changing. Virtual real estate is just not the big deal or main cashable aspect any more.

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By: Nakie http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/#comment-764174 Sun, 05 Aug 2012 16:48:26 +0000 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/?p=5806#comment-764174 Until LL goes public, we’ll all just sort of wonder about its bottom line, although there is data available here and elsewhere about its total income. I suspect its IPO would go exactly the way Facebook has with investors losing more than half their investments.

I have very little hope for SL because it seems little more than a “family” dictatorship with its head in the sand. Perhaps if they quit selling smoke and mirrors and started selling pretzels, they’d have a future.

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By: moon http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/#comment-762111 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 18:17:48 +0000 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/?p=5806#comment-762111 linden labs struggles have more to do with exhorbitant prices and rising competition. I personally love SL. I have a premium acct but I will never own enough land to have fun with simply because the prices and setup fees are exorbitant. Not to mention, I dont want an entire sim.

Just this week I found two other grids with prices that are extremely affordable. I can get the equivalent of a quarter sim for about 15 bucks a month, or a half sim for 35. AND there is a marketplace as well as currency that can be cashed out if one is so inclined, or that successful.

While the populations of both are not a match for SL, the facts are, those Ive met there are ex SLrs. not because they hate SL, but simply because they can do more on the other grids.

SL keeps its prices high to limit the number of servers and people it has to attend to on that level. But catering to the 1% instead of expanding horizons just might eventually bite ‘em in the underwear.

Premium homes etc was a brilliant idea. If not for that, Id have left SL some time ago. BUt Im ready to expand my horizons on a larger scale..and SL is just not affordable.

I still love SL..but I have no doubt that Ill be purchasing that “homestead” or Small Island on the new grid and that will certainly draw me away from SL eventually.

Check out Island Oasis. You get a free island for starters with a 280 prim count and you can build your own home there. not a lot of prims in comparison to premium at SL, but ITS FREE. And the lowest package for OWNING a good bit of land with more than enough prims (5000) to play with, 15 bucks for starters. and no setup fees. as far as I can tell there are no additional fees beyond the monthly rate. islandoasis.biz

Its fledgling, not as stable as SL is right now. and the scripting is where I recall SL being 5 years ago. BUt with mesh all the rage, Im betting its on their horizon, if its not there already.

I’m not ready to leave SL. but I imagine once the word gets out about Island Oasis and the traffic starts flowing…

Island Oasis isnt the only very competitively priced grid I came across this weekend. The other, not named here, offers land for affordable rates, but appears to have no marketplace and only inworld currency.

Not that Ive ever made more than 20 bucks with my store in SL, but I prefer a grid where currency can be pulled out IF the need arises and a marketplace is strictly essential.

here’s hoping SL isnt thumbing its nose at the competition and sits up and adjusts region pricing accordingly. Be competitive and people will stay.

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By: Vivienne http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/#comment-760451 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 08:00:52 +0000 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/?p=5806#comment-760451 Mesh/V2/Display Names/Shadows/Direct Delivery were not Komin/Rodvick projects, they were born a while before these two actors appeared. All of these projects failed, not miserably, but more or less in regards of concurrency and expansion of the user base. Pathfinding looks more like another attempt to broaden the SL experience for another niche audience/creatorship than a general strategical move.

Maybe project shining will finally bring to SL what is needs the most – and never enjoyed – since 2004: Rock solid technical stability.

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By: Ezra http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/#comment-760271 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 03:09:59 +0000 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/?p=5806#comment-760271 Every New Years, M overpromised what Linden Lab would do for Second Life. Rod came out the gate talking about what Linden Lab wouldn’t do; discuss tier, redo the viewer entirely, maybe a few other things. A lot of people including myself praised that general attitude as pragmatism at the time because it meant focus on small and nearly complete things like finishing mesh finally, rolling out display names, the basic viewer, and fixing the UI mistakes of Viewer 2, etc., which all Linden Lab eventually did more or less but it didn’t change Second Life’s fortunes.

Shipment on Rod’s small gambles with Second Life are running out; I don’t think any are announced beyond pathfinding, creators program and project shining. After that, what? Neither are likely to reverse the downward slope in concurrency or sim counts.

So maybe Second Life does need a looney gambler that’d put the company on Second Life moreso than a pragmatist like Rod that seems like he’s undoubtedly going to find a way to preserve Linden Lab, but maybe not Second Life.

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By: Penny Patton http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/#comment-760262 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 02:55:11 +0000 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/?p=5806#comment-760262 “I almost wish M was back. Maybe he was going to drive Second Life into the ground, but at least he was going to do it believing he was doing best for Second Life.”

Really? I’d say the opposite is more true. There might be fewer blog communications or in-world appearances with Rodvik, but he seems to be making a much greater effort to connect with active SL communities to gain feedback and seems to be pushing some improvements SL has needed since…well, since 2002 quite frankly.

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By: Tateru Nino http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/#comment-760141 Wed, 01 Aug 2012 22:48:45 +0000 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/?p=5806#comment-760141 The Lab’s going to hire a replacement, but it isn’t clear when or who.

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By: Ezra http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/#comment-759982 Wed, 01 Aug 2012 19:18:34 +0000 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/?p=5806#comment-759982 Second Life became a lot less personable under his rule. I thought M was a tad looney with all the SLHD chicken stuff but amid his overreaching for the future there were a lot of practical things he promised like C# as a scripting language. Komin on the other hand seems like did things in interest to the balance sheets, so Lindens like Babbage are no more and big features disappeared with them.

Komin wasn’t hired as a community rep though or any kind of technical lead. It seems he succeeded at the things he was supposed to. Making numbers look right on a balance sheet can be a callous job and I just hope now that Linden Lab has had a couple or few years of fiscal soundness they can return to being sociable, friendly, happy to promise good things to customers again even if it hurts them a lil bit.

But, doesn’t look like that’s going to happen. The Rod of this year is much more distant than the Rod of last year. And this is before the new products are unveiled, released and demanding of more of his and the rest of Linden Lab’s attention.

I almost wish M was back. Maybe he was going to drive Second Life into the ground, but at least he was going to do it believing he was doing best for Second Life.

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By: Darrius Gothly http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/#comment-759904 Wed, 01 Aug 2012 17:32:50 +0000 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/?p=5806#comment-759904 So is this more loss of “Old Blood” that truly understood what SL is about and how to satisfy the customer, or is this the departure of someone that steadfastly refused to accept what SL really is and was paramount in the overall Customer-Hostile attitude that permeates the Lab?

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By: Ricco Saenz http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/#comment-759860 Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:27:26 +0000 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/?p=5806#comment-759860 And who’s replacing him?

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By: Bob Komin departs LL | Living in the Modem World http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/#comment-759824 Wed, 01 Aug 2012 15:51:38 +0000 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/?p=5806#comment-759824 […] reported by Tateru Nino, Bob Komin, Chief Operating Officer / Chief Financial Officer and interim CEO of Linden Research […]

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By: Tateru Nino http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/#comment-759785 Wed, 01 Aug 2012 14:55:24 +0000 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/?p=5806#comment-759785 It was, so I asked the Lab about it. Got confirmation a few hours ago.

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By: Marianne McCann http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/2012/08/01/bob-komin-leaves-linden-lab/#comment-759758 Wed, 01 Aug 2012 14:36:36 +0000 http://dwellonit.taterunino.net/?p=5806#comment-759758 I thought this was rumored some weeks ago?

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